1 00:00:05,349 --> 00:00:03,350 good day and welcome back to the johnson 2 00:00:07,110 --> 00:00:05,359 space center for today's mission status 3 00:00:08,549 --> 00:00:07,120 briefing on flight day six of 4 00:00:10,950 --> 00:00:08,559 discovery's final mission to the 5 00:00:13,190 --> 00:00:10,960 international space station a busy day 6 00:00:14,870 --> 00:00:13,200 in orbit and here on the ground and with 7 00:00:17,990 --> 00:00:14,880 us today to discuss all of those 8 00:00:21,910 --> 00:00:18,000 activities are david korth the iss orbit 9 00:00:23,910 --> 00:00:21,920 one flight director for sts-133 ulf5 and 10 00:00:25,750 --> 00:00:23,920 kenny todd the mission integration and 11 00:00:27,910 --> 00:00:25,760 operations manager for the international 12 00:00:30,230 --> 00:00:27,920 space station program and the chairman 13 00:00:31,910 --> 00:00:30,240 of the iss mission management team and 14 00:00:34,470 --> 00:00:31,920 we'll start off with david 15 00:00:36,470 --> 00:00:34,480 all right good day to everyone 16 00:00:39,750 --> 00:00:36,480 orbiter status everything's looking 17 00:00:43,030 --> 00:00:41,030 there's been a lot of discussion the 18 00:00:44,549 --> 00:00:43,040 last couple of days about 19 00:00:46,069 --> 00:00:44,559 can we add a date of the mission or not 20 00:00:48,389 --> 00:00:46,079 and the the management team decided 21 00:00:51,189 --> 00:00:48,399 yesterday that indeed we will be adding 22 00:00:54,150 --> 00:00:51,199 a day to the docked mission 23 00:00:56,229 --> 00:00:54,160 we're going to focus on pmm outfitting 24 00:00:58,709 --> 00:00:56,239 and i'm happy to say the pmm is now part 25 00:01:00,709 --> 00:00:58,719 of the international space station 26 00:01:01,910 --> 00:01:00,719 we were actually fortunate enough 27 00:01:03,990 --> 00:01:01,920 right around the time that we were 28 00:01:04,869 --> 00:01:04,000 bolting putting final final bolting in 29 00:01:07,270 --> 00:01:04,879 place 30 00:01:08,390 --> 00:01:07,280 we passed over a tour in italy this was 31 00:01:12,390 --> 00:01:08,400 kind of a 32 00:01:14,469 --> 00:01:12,400 poetic poetic justice for pmm 33 00:01:16,710 --> 00:01:14,479 right now on the the overall mission 34 00:01:20,710 --> 00:01:16,720 we're about 60 percent complete with the 35 00:01:22,630 --> 00:01:20,720 uh physical item transfer 36 00:01:24,149 --> 00:01:22,640 as far as the 37 00:01:26,630 --> 00:01:24,159 duration of the mission we're we're 38 00:01:28,710 --> 00:01:26,640 calling it a 12 plus 1 plus 2 mission at 39 00:01:31,429 --> 00:01:28,720 this point o2 limited 40 00:01:33,510 --> 00:01:31,439 we still have a lot more margin so uh 41 00:01:35,030 --> 00:01:33,520 folks are still discussing 42 00:01:37,510 --> 00:01:35,040 how we want to make use of that for the 43 00:01:39,590 --> 00:01:37,520 rest of the mission 44 00:01:41,270 --> 00:01:39,600 from today's timeline 45 00:01:43,109 --> 00:01:41,280 the uh 46 00:01:44,069 --> 00:01:43,119 as you probably know and i was fortunate 47 00:01:45,910 --> 00:01:44,079 enough the 48 00:01:47,510 --> 00:01:45,920 we all got supported the crew and 49 00:01:49,510 --> 00:01:47,520 getting ahead on the plan 50 00:01:51,030 --> 00:01:49,520 the pmm is installed and is part of the 51 00:01:53,030 --> 00:01:51,040 station 52 00:01:55,830 --> 00:01:53,040 the crew is working now on the initial 53 00:01:57,270 --> 00:01:55,840 vestibule outfitting and pressurization 54 00:01:58,310 --> 00:01:57,280 with the intent 55 00:01:59,190 --> 00:01:58,320 of 56 00:02:01,030 --> 00:01:59,200 the 57 00:02:03,910 --> 00:02:01,040 hatch opening in ingress 58 00:02:05,749 --> 00:02:03,920 later this evening houston time 59 00:02:08,469 --> 00:02:05,759 per the the nominal timeline if you will 60 00:02:10,150 --> 00:02:08,479 would have been about 5 58 pm but we're 61 00:02:12,229 --> 00:02:10,160 optimistic that will happen a little 62 00:02:13,270 --> 00:02:12,239 sooner 63 00:02:15,430 --> 00:02:13,280 we had 64 00:02:17,190 --> 00:02:15,440 great support today on orbit from a 65 00:02:19,110 --> 00:02:17,200 variety of people 66 00:02:21,030 --> 00:02:19,120 on the the arm 67 00:02:24,470 --> 00:02:21,040 mike barrett nicole stott 68 00:02:26,470 --> 00:02:24,480 using the ssrms to grapple the pmm and 69 00:02:28,070 --> 00:02:26,480 the payload bay bring it out bertha to 70 00:02:29,750 --> 00:02:28,080 iss 71 00:02:32,630 --> 00:02:29,760 katie and eric bowe 72 00:02:34,550 --> 00:02:32,640 working the cbm ops to 73 00:02:36,949 --> 00:02:34,560 get us through bolting 74 00:02:39,190 --> 00:02:36,959 our ground control team to take care of 75 00:02:39,990 --> 00:02:39,200 the final bolting and seal the interface 76 00:02:42,550 --> 00:02:40,000 up 77 00:02:43,830 --> 00:02:42,560 and then uh katie and mike barrett uh 78 00:02:46,150 --> 00:02:43,840 ungrappled the arm and put it in 79 00:02:49,750 --> 00:02:46,160 position for eva2 tomorrow 80 00:02:55,110 --> 00:02:51,190 in the background 81 00:02:56,869 --> 00:02:55,120 russian team is working hard on the uh 82 00:02:59,430 --> 00:02:56,879 the replacement of the vos duke system 83 00:03:02,390 --> 00:02:59,440 their co2 scrubbing system uh that seems 84 00:03:05,190 --> 00:03:02,400 to be going well on plan 85 00:03:07,190 --> 00:03:05,200 and uh as i mentioned uh tonight 86 00:03:09,750 --> 00:03:07,200 we'll be uh obviously getting ready for 87 00:03:13,990 --> 00:03:09,760 eva number two tomorrow 88 00:03:17,670 --> 00:03:14,000 campout begins at 7 33 pm local or 89 00:03:20,229 --> 00:03:17,680 gmt 60 day 0 1 hours 33 minutes 90 00:03:23,030 --> 00:03:20,239 as when we begin the o2 91 00:03:27,270 --> 00:03:23,040 10 2 pressurization 92 00:03:31,190 --> 00:03:27,280 hygiene break tomorrow 503 local am 93 00:03:33,750 --> 00:03:31,200 gmt 61 out 61 days 11 hours 3 minutes 94 00:03:37,670 --> 00:03:33,760 egress is targeted for 95 00:03:41,110 --> 00:03:37,680 9 23 a.m tomorrow local houston time 96 00:03:43,509 --> 00:03:41,120 a gmt of 61 days 15 hours 23 minutes 97 00:03:47,110 --> 00:03:43,519 with an ingress at 21 hours 43 minutes 98 00:03:48,789 --> 00:03:47,120 gmt around 3 43 p.m 99 00:03:50,390 --> 00:03:48,799 a number of different activities we have 100 00:03:52,949 --> 00:03:50,400 on the plan tomorrow 101 00:03:54,470 --> 00:03:52,959 for the eva we've accomplished all what 102 00:03:55,589 --> 00:03:54,480 we call the high high priority 103 00:03:57,429 --> 00:03:55,599 objectives 104 00:03:59,429 --> 00:03:57,439 one of the first things we'll do 105 00:04:01,670 --> 00:03:59,439 is on the eva is the 106 00:04:04,789 --> 00:04:01,680 ammonia venting from the the pump module 107 00:04:06,229 --> 00:04:04,799 that's on the esp-2 108 00:04:07,350 --> 00:04:06,239 and then we'll work off a number of 109 00:04:08,869 --> 00:04:07,360 other 110 00:04:10,630 --> 00:04:08,879 items 111 00:04:13,270 --> 00:04:10,640 in parallel with that we're going to 112 00:04:15,030 --> 00:04:13,280 begin the pmm unpacking 113 00:04:17,430 --> 00:04:15,040 and a couple of the main things we're 114 00:04:20,229 --> 00:04:17,440 trying to get to tomorrow is a data 115 00:04:23,110 --> 00:04:20,239 cable that we want to get out of the pmm 116 00:04:26,070 --> 00:04:23,120 to provide a data connection into the 117 00:04:29,110 --> 00:04:26,080 iss directly hardwired data connection 118 00:04:31,590 --> 00:04:29,120 to the htv which is on the node 2 zenith 119 00:04:33,670 --> 00:04:31,600 and we've been operating with an rf link 120 00:04:35,350 --> 00:04:33,680 between htv and the us 121 00:04:37,270 --> 00:04:35,360 elements so we're we're looking forward 122 00:04:39,670 --> 00:04:37,280 to that hard line connection and of 123 00:04:42,710 --> 00:04:39,680 course the next thing is we'll be taking 124 00:04:44,790 --> 00:04:42,720 a lot of trash or packing trash a lot of 125 00:04:45,990 --> 00:04:44,800 items that came up in the pmm 126 00:04:48,310 --> 00:04:46,000 have a lot of 127 00:04:50,310 --> 00:04:48,320 packing material structure to protect it 128 00:04:52,710 --> 00:04:50,320 for its ascent loads so we're going to 129 00:04:54,870 --> 00:04:52,720 take that out throw it in htv 130 00:04:56,390 --> 00:04:54,880 and we're going to move the robonaut 131 00:04:59,030 --> 00:04:56,400 block we're going to take its packing 132 00:05:00,790 --> 00:04:59,040 foam off and you'll get this big large 133 00:05:01,670 --> 00:05:00,800 metal box 134 00:05:03,270 --> 00:05:01,680 that 135 00:05:05,350 --> 00:05:03,280 houses robonaut 136 00:05:08,830 --> 00:05:05,360 we'll be putting that in the lab for 137 00:05:10,390 --> 00:05:08,840 unpacking at a future date 138 00:05:12,310 --> 00:05:10,400 um 139 00:05:13,430 --> 00:05:12,320 beyond that i have mission is going 140 00:05:14,629 --> 00:05:13,440 really well 141 00:05:16,469 --> 00:05:14,639 like i mentioned we're ahead of the 142 00:05:18,629 --> 00:05:16,479 timeline again today 143 00:05:21,029 --> 00:05:18,639 we're looking forward to successful eva 144 00:05:23,670 --> 00:05:21,039 2 tomorrow and of course successful 145 00:05:25,510 --> 00:05:23,680 ingress this evening into the 146 00:05:27,110 --> 00:05:25,520 pmm 147 00:05:28,870 --> 00:05:27,120 that's that's really all i had at this 148 00:05:30,950 --> 00:05:28,880 time so 149 00:05:32,469 --> 00:05:30,960 if you want i can take questions now 150 00:05:34,790 --> 00:05:32,479 actually we'll go on to kenny first then 151 00:05:36,310 --> 00:05:34,800 we'll take questions here kenny okay 152 00:05:39,189 --> 00:05:36,320 well it's uh great to be here with you 153 00:05:41,029 --> 00:05:39,199 today we had the eva yesterday 154 00:05:42,710 --> 00:05:41,039 everything went really well they got us 155 00:05:44,469 --> 00:05:42,720 in a good position 156 00:05:47,590 --> 00:05:44,479 the ops team and the crew did to go do 157 00:05:49,510 --> 00:05:47,600 the pmm install this morning 158 00:05:52,230 --> 00:05:49,520 that all went very well congratulations 159 00:05:53,990 --> 00:05:52,240 to to both the crew and and the ops team 160 00:05:56,230 --> 00:05:54,000 uh look very much forward to getting 161 00:05:58,870 --> 00:05:56,240 into the pmm uh later this afternoon 162 00:06:01,990 --> 00:05:58,880 early this evening and get about the 163 00:06:03,990 --> 00:06:02,000 task of integrating that that new module 164 00:06:05,830 --> 00:06:04,000 into the living space onboard the space 165 00:06:07,749 --> 00:06:05,840 station 166 00:06:10,629 --> 00:06:07,759 then we turn the corner we go as dave 167 00:06:12,230 --> 00:06:10,639 said do the eba tomorrow we got a lot of 168 00:06:14,150 --> 00:06:12,240 what i would call kind of cats and dogs 169 00:06:16,070 --> 00:06:14,160 on that on that eba things that we've 170 00:06:18,309 --> 00:06:16,080 been tracking that we need to get done 171 00:06:20,469 --> 00:06:18,319 for some time so got a good opportunity 172 00:06:23,590 --> 00:06:20,479 to go get those tomorrow and so 173 00:06:25,749 --> 00:06:23,600 we we feel good about where we are there 174 00:06:28,150 --> 00:06:25,759 from a program perspective as most of 175 00:06:31,110 --> 00:06:28,160 you know we're in what i'd term kind of 176 00:06:33,189 --> 00:06:31,120 a detailed choreography right now of 177 00:06:34,550 --> 00:06:33,199 vehicles coming to and from the space 178 00:06:36,550 --> 00:06:34,560 station 179 00:06:39,909 --> 00:06:36,560 if you're keeping a scorecard we had the 180 00:06:41,590 --> 00:06:39,919 htv and get here at the end of january 181 00:06:43,430 --> 00:06:41,600 we had the atv 182 00:06:46,150 --> 00:06:43,440 show up last week and then this past 183 00:06:47,430 --> 00:06:46,160 weekend our our shuttle friends came for 184 00:06:49,510 --> 00:06:47,440 a visit 185 00:06:51,189 --> 00:06:49,520 we're very much happy to have all those 186 00:06:52,710 --> 00:06:51,199 vehicles 187 00:06:56,390 --> 00:06:52,720 when you look forward 188 00:06:58,790 --> 00:06:56,400 scott kelly and and his soyuz crew 189 00:07:00,950 --> 00:06:58,800 with with sasha and oleg they'll be 190 00:07:02,790 --> 00:07:00,960 returning here in a couple of weeks 191 00:07:04,550 --> 00:07:02,800 on the 16th of march 192 00:07:07,350 --> 00:07:04,560 and then towards the end of march we'll 193 00:07:08,230 --> 00:07:07,360 uh we'll let the htv 194 00:07:10,469 --> 00:07:08,240 go 195 00:07:12,469 --> 00:07:10,479 and then and then we'll look forward a 196 00:07:13,670 --> 00:07:12,479 couple of weeks after that to the ulf 197 00:07:14,950 --> 00:07:13,680 six mission 198 00:07:17,990 --> 00:07:14,960 so as you can see we're right in the 199 00:07:19,830 --> 00:07:18,000 middle of of what's again a pretty 200 00:07:21,510 --> 00:07:19,840 uh a pretty uh 201 00:07:23,749 --> 00:07:21,520 large number of vehicles coming to and 202 00:07:25,909 --> 00:07:23,759 from station and so we're spending a lot 203 00:07:28,469 --> 00:07:25,919 of time getting ready to receive those 204 00:07:31,110 --> 00:07:28,479 vehicles and get ready for them to part 205 00:07:34,150 --> 00:07:31,120 and uh and uh as david said we got a lot 206 00:07:36,950 --> 00:07:34,160 of work relative to configuring the pmm 207 00:07:38,790 --> 00:07:36,960 unpacking it uh getting it ready to 208 00:07:39,830 --> 00:07:38,800 receive additional cargo from around the 209 00:07:42,150 --> 00:07:39,840 station 210 00:07:44,230 --> 00:07:42,160 and and we want to make sure that as we 211 00:07:46,869 --> 00:07:44,240 go through that that we we don't 212 00:07:48,790 --> 00:07:46,879 compromise our ability to continue doing 213 00:07:51,430 --> 00:07:48,800 uh human research program type 214 00:07:53,350 --> 00:07:51,440 activities things that that you know 215 00:07:55,990 --> 00:07:53,360 were put on station to do 216 00:07:58,469 --> 00:07:56,000 and so uh with that in mind 217 00:07:59,270 --> 00:07:58,479 i went to the shuttle program yesterday 218 00:08:00,950 --> 00:07:59,280 and 219 00:08:03,029 --> 00:08:00,960 asked them to consider 220 00:08:05,589 --> 00:08:03,039 adding a plus one day for us 221 00:08:07,510 --> 00:08:05,599 again every time we have a shuttle visit 222 00:08:09,670 --> 00:08:07,520 if we can take advantage of the 223 00:08:12,790 --> 00:08:09,680 of the extra crew members 224 00:08:16,070 --> 00:08:12,800 we we certainly want to do that leroy 225 00:08:19,110 --> 00:08:16,080 and mmt considered that proposal and 226 00:08:21,990 --> 00:08:19,120 agreed to stay an extra day and so we're 227 00:08:24,309 --> 00:08:22,000 we're very happy to have them stay again 228 00:08:27,589 --> 00:08:24,319 with the focus being on trying to to get 229 00:08:29,589 --> 00:08:27,599 the pmm in a good configuration 230 00:08:31,670 --> 00:08:29,599 as quick as we can 231 00:08:34,070 --> 00:08:31,680 another task that we looked at 232 00:08:36,709 --> 00:08:34,080 for use in this plus one day is what 233 00:08:38,469 --> 00:08:36,719 what everybody refers to as this soyuz 234 00:08:40,870 --> 00:08:38,479 flyabout 235 00:08:44,949 --> 00:08:40,880 we we asked the partnership to 236 00:08:47,670 --> 00:08:44,959 uh consider this possibility uh we uh we 237 00:08:49,269 --> 00:08:47,680 started this a couple of weeks ago we we 238 00:08:51,110 --> 00:08:49,279 identified all the forward work through 239 00:08:53,990 --> 00:08:51,120 the different partners that they had to 240 00:08:55,750 --> 00:08:54,000 go do to assess their readiness from a 241 00:08:57,910 --> 00:08:55,760 partner standpoint 242 00:08:59,509 --> 00:08:57,920 retract that work through the the iss 243 00:09:00,310 --> 00:08:59,519 mission management team 244 00:09:03,750 --> 00:09:00,320 and 245 00:09:06,230 --> 00:09:03,760 due diligence 246 00:09:08,310 --> 00:09:06,240 going through their normal 247 00:09:11,190 --> 00:09:08,320 management processes that allow them to 248 00:09:11,910 --> 00:09:11,200 identify risk and and do what they can 249 00:09:14,949 --> 00:09:11,920 to 250 00:09:18,949 --> 00:09:14,959 them 251 00:09:20,550 --> 00:09:18,959 and so that process has been going on 252 00:09:24,070 --> 00:09:20,560 for the last 253 00:09:26,310 --> 00:09:24,080 week to two weeks um this morning at 254 00:09:28,870 --> 00:09:26,320 this this morning's uh station mission 255 00:09:31,430 --> 00:09:28,880 management team meeting we had uh we had 256 00:09:33,110 --> 00:09:31,440 a plan to go do a go no-go uh to go do 257 00:09:36,470 --> 00:09:33,120 that soyuz flyabout 258 00:09:38,070 --> 00:09:36,480 um our uh our russian colleagues 259 00:09:40,870 --> 00:09:38,080 were first out of the shoot this morning 260 00:09:42,550 --> 00:09:40,880 and after doing their own due diligence 261 00:09:44,790 --> 00:09:42,560 and using their own independent 262 00:09:46,790 --> 00:09:44,800 processes within within 263 00:09:48,790 --> 00:09:46,800 the russian side of the house 264 00:09:51,350 --> 00:09:48,800 they have determined that 265 00:09:53,190 --> 00:09:51,360 that with 24 soyuz which is the vehicle 266 00:09:55,910 --> 00:09:53,200 we were going to use to do this this fly 267 00:09:58,710 --> 00:09:55,920 around that they are not in a position 268 00:09:59,750 --> 00:09:58,720 to to recommend doing that that fly 269 00:10:02,630 --> 00:09:59,760 about 270 00:10:05,110 --> 00:10:02,640 and uh their primary basis for was was 271 00:10:06,630 --> 00:10:05,120 because this particular vehicle is what 272 00:10:09,269 --> 00:10:06,640 they consider to be a new vehicle that's 273 00:10:12,069 --> 00:10:09,279 what we call a series 700 vehicle 274 00:10:14,630 --> 00:10:12,079 and so this is it's made in flight 275 00:10:16,310 --> 00:10:14,640 they had a flight program set aside for 276 00:10:19,350 --> 00:10:16,320 that particular vehicle which had it 277 00:10:21,990 --> 00:10:19,360 come into station serving its uh six 278 00:10:24,550 --> 00:10:22,000 month term there and then returning 279 00:10:26,230 --> 00:10:24,560 and uh and so 280 00:10:28,310 --> 00:10:26,240 basically with uh 281 00:10:30,310 --> 00:10:28,320 with when we asked them to take a look 282 00:10:31,750 --> 00:10:30,320 at this request 283 00:10:34,310 --> 00:10:31,760 and the amount of time they had to look 284 00:10:36,470 --> 00:10:34,320 at it uh and and the fact that they 285 00:10:38,470 --> 00:10:36,480 didn't have before this vehicle was 286 00:10:39,910 --> 00:10:38,480 launched an opportunity to go work this 287 00:10:42,310 --> 00:10:39,920 maneuver through their normal 288 00:10:44,870 --> 00:10:42,320 development and test uh planning uh 289 00:10:47,190 --> 00:10:44,880 given that it's again a new vehicle 290 00:10:48,870 --> 00:10:47,200 they came back to us and said they'd 291 00:10:50,710 --> 00:10:48,880 recommend not doing it 292 00:10:53,190 --> 00:10:50,720 and from a mission management team 293 00:10:55,110 --> 00:10:53,200 perspective um we knew all along that 294 00:10:56,630 --> 00:10:55,120 that you know was critical for all 295 00:10:59,350 --> 00:10:56,640 partners to be able to 296 00:11:01,110 --> 00:10:59,360 to to go through their own processes and 297 00:11:03,269 --> 00:11:01,120 to get comfortable with doing this 298 00:11:05,670 --> 00:11:03,279 activity and and when we got that 299 00:11:07,590 --> 00:11:05,680 feedback from the russians this morning 300 00:11:10,389 --> 00:11:07,600 it wasn't necessarily what we we were 301 00:11:12,389 --> 00:11:10,399 hoping to get back but at the same point 302 00:11:14,470 --> 00:11:12,399 you know i applaud the russians 303 00:11:15,509 --> 00:11:14,480 for doing the right thing uh you know 304 00:11:18,550 --> 00:11:15,519 not 305 00:11:21,350 --> 00:11:18,560 disregarding their own processes but 306 00:11:23,110 --> 00:11:21,360 instead uh making sure that uh that they 307 00:11:25,910 --> 00:11:23,120 do their due diligence the way they 308 00:11:28,550 --> 00:11:25,920 should and uh and and bringing that back 309 00:11:30,470 --> 00:11:28,560 to the partnership and so i accepted 310 00:11:32,949 --> 00:11:30,480 their recommendation 311 00:11:35,590 --> 00:11:32,959 i opened that up for comments to the 312 00:11:37,910 --> 00:11:35,600 entire mission management team and and 313 00:11:39,750 --> 00:11:37,920 it was unanimous there were no no 314 00:11:41,269 --> 00:11:39,760 dissenting opinions to the russian 315 00:11:44,310 --> 00:11:41,279 recommendation 316 00:11:45,829 --> 00:11:44,320 we all placed a great amount of faith in 317 00:11:48,710 --> 00:11:45,839 the system that the russians have to go 318 00:11:51,430 --> 00:11:48,720 make this decision on their side and so 319 00:11:54,069 --> 00:11:51,440 as a as a mission management team i 320 00:11:55,829 --> 00:11:54,079 i ask that we cease all further 321 00:11:58,389 --> 00:11:55,839 activities with regard to discussions 322 00:12:00,230 --> 00:11:58,399 about a fly about 323 00:12:01,670 --> 00:12:00,240 i think in in some ways it's allowed the 324 00:12:03,670 --> 00:12:01,680 team now to get on with the rest of the 325 00:12:05,030 --> 00:12:03,680 mission uh everything we can take off 326 00:12:07,269 --> 00:12:05,040 their plate is a good thing it allows 327 00:12:09,190 --> 00:12:07,279 them to stay focused on on trying to get 328 00:12:10,870 --> 00:12:09,200 the things done that we need to do 329 00:12:13,030 --> 00:12:10,880 that we had laid out for this mission 330 00:12:15,269 --> 00:12:13,040 for for the last couple of years 331 00:12:17,350 --> 00:12:15,279 and uh and i'm happy to say i feel good 332 00:12:18,550 --> 00:12:17,360 about where we're at right now and and i 333 00:12:21,670 --> 00:12:18,560 think it was a good decision this 334 00:12:23,590 --> 00:12:21,680 morning and uh and i look forward to a 335 00:12:25,829 --> 00:12:23,600 good successful conclusion to this 336 00:12:28,069 --> 00:12:25,839 doctor mission with the shuttle guys and 337 00:12:29,030 --> 00:12:28,079 and we'll we'll be ready to go do these 338 00:12:30,550 --> 00:12:29,040 next 339 00:12:31,670 --> 00:12:30,560 vehicle operations that i mentioned 340 00:12:33,269 --> 00:12:31,680 earlier 341 00:12:34,389 --> 00:12:33,279 and that's all i have unless you have 342 00:12:35,990 --> 00:12:34,399 any questions 343 00:12:37,509 --> 00:12:36,000 okay thanks kenny uh we'll take 344 00:12:39,350 --> 00:12:37,519 questions here in houston we also have 345 00:12:41,750 --> 00:12:39,360 reporters at the kennedy space center 346 00:12:43,910 --> 00:12:41,760 and on our phone bridge so we'll start 347 00:12:46,550 --> 00:12:43,920 here in the back with mark 348 00:12:48,790 --> 00:12:46,560 oh thank you uh mark caro for aviation 349 00:12:51,030 --> 00:12:48,800 week and space technology and i had a 350 00:12:52,790 --> 00:12:51,040 couple questions for uh 351 00:12:55,030 --> 00:12:52,800 for ken todd 352 00:12:58,230 --> 00:12:55,040 can can you offer us sort of any new 353 00:13:00,870 --> 00:12:58,240 context on how the proposal for the 354 00:13:03,190 --> 00:13:00,880 for the fly about in the picture uh came 355 00:13:05,750 --> 00:13:03,200 about whether it was a proposal just 356 00:13:08,629 --> 00:13:05,760 from nasa or from three of the 357 00:13:09,430 --> 00:13:08,639 four of the major partners 358 00:13:11,430 --> 00:13:09,440 and 359 00:13:14,150 --> 00:13:11,440 would you foresee any occasion where 360 00:13:16,310 --> 00:13:14,160 this might be possible to do again 361 00:13:17,990 --> 00:13:16,320 where you have worked with the other 362 00:13:19,269 --> 00:13:18,000 part i know the shuttle 363 00:13:21,030 --> 00:13:19,279 probably 364 00:13:23,030 --> 00:13:21,040 you know has a couple more occasions to 365 00:13:25,430 --> 00:13:23,040 come to the station i just 366 00:13:27,269 --> 00:13:25,440 wonder if this is uh 367 00:13:29,509 --> 00:13:27,279 gone or whether it might work into a 368 00:13:31,190 --> 00:13:29,519 future flight plan thank you 369 00:13:33,829 --> 00:13:31,200 okay 370 00:13:35,509 --> 00:13:33,839 let's see so how it came about well i 371 00:13:38,069 --> 00:13:35,519 will tell you as a 372 00:13:40,150 --> 00:13:38,079 as an immt chairman we were asked to go 373 00:13:41,750 --> 00:13:40,160 look at it um 374 00:13:44,069 --> 00:13:41,760 certainly to me it came through the 375 00:13:46,069 --> 00:13:44,079 through the nasa channels 376 00:13:47,990 --> 00:13:46,079 as we began discussing this with the 377 00:13:50,069 --> 00:13:48,000 partnership i will tell you there was 378 00:13:52,550 --> 00:13:50,079 broad support 379 00:13:54,949 --> 00:13:52,560 our russian colleagues 380 00:13:55,990 --> 00:13:54,959 worked very hard over the last couple of 381 00:13:57,430 --> 00:13:56,000 weeks to 382 00:13:59,829 --> 00:13:57,440 to build a plan 383 00:14:00,629 --> 00:13:59,839 and to work it within their own system 384 00:14:06,310 --> 00:14:00,639 to 385 00:14:07,910 --> 00:14:06,320 everybody was comfortable in the russian 386 00:14:09,990 --> 00:14:07,920 segment world 387 00:14:11,590 --> 00:14:10,000 the europeans again very supportive our 388 00:14:14,949 --> 00:14:11,600 jackson colleagues very supportive as 389 00:14:18,470 --> 00:14:14,959 well as our canadian partners so 390 00:14:20,069 --> 00:14:18,480 again i think across the board um i 391 00:14:21,829 --> 00:14:20,079 don't know exactly 392 00:14:23,750 --> 00:14:21,839 where it came from how it came to us but 393 00:14:25,030 --> 00:14:23,760 i can tell you this and the discussions 394 00:14:26,629 --> 00:14:25,040 that we had 395 00:14:28,949 --> 00:14:26,639 with the entire partnership there was 396 00:14:31,189 --> 00:14:28,959 very broad support for doing this 397 00:14:32,550 --> 00:14:31,199 i think in general the community 398 00:14:34,069 --> 00:14:32,560 community thought this was a really 399 00:14:35,670 --> 00:14:34,079 great thing to go do if we could go do 400 00:14:40,550 --> 00:14:35,680 it 401 00:14:41,430 --> 00:14:40,560 uh the cory choreography i talked about 402 00:14:43,430 --> 00:14:41,440 earlier 403 00:14:45,910 --> 00:14:43,440 if you look at ulf6 404 00:14:48,150 --> 00:14:45,920 clearly the htv will be gone by that 405 00:14:50,069 --> 00:14:48,160 time and so 406 00:14:52,310 --> 00:14:50,079 i think where we're at today if you look 407 00:14:53,990 --> 00:14:52,320 at the flight program and the way it's 408 00:14:55,110 --> 00:14:54,000 if it plays out the way it's laid out 409 00:14:56,710 --> 00:14:55,120 today 410 00:14:58,629 --> 00:14:56,720 we won't have 411 00:14:59,670 --> 00:14:58,639 the uh the same number of visiting 412 00:15:03,590 --> 00:14:59,680 vehicles 413 00:15:05,030 --> 00:15:03,600 and and so whether that uh again um 414 00:15:06,870 --> 00:15:05,040 we would want to take advantage of that 415 00:15:08,949 --> 00:15:06,880 is something we'll have to go to go look 416 00:15:11,350 --> 00:15:08,959 at uh to be perfectly frank we didn't 417 00:15:14,150 --> 00:15:11,360 know we would be here when we we put the 418 00:15:15,670 --> 00:15:14,160 shuttle plan in place you know uh 419 00:15:17,030 --> 00:15:15,680 a year or so ago you know we didn't 420 00:15:20,150 --> 00:15:17,040 realize that we weren't going to fly in 421 00:15:22,150 --> 00:15:20,160 november and we'd end up in february so 422 00:15:24,470 --> 00:15:22,160 how that looks going forward you know 423 00:15:25,829 --> 00:15:24,480 you never say never but i would tell you 424 00:15:27,269 --> 00:15:25,839 right now the way we have the flight 425 00:15:29,590 --> 00:15:27,279 program laid out 426 00:15:30,550 --> 00:15:29,600 this is a this is a unique opportunity 427 00:15:34,629 --> 00:15:30,560 that 428 00:15:36,550 --> 00:15:34,639 shuttle mission 429 00:15:40,069 --> 00:15:36,560 bill 430 00:15:41,590 --> 00:15:40,079 i just want to make sure i understand 431 00:15:42,710 --> 00:15:41,600 with the htv there i mean my 432 00:15:44,629 --> 00:15:42,720 understanding if you're coming off the 433 00:15:46,550 --> 00:15:44,639 poisk module and stuff that 434 00:15:48,310 --> 00:15:46,560 htv provided some shielding i guess from 435 00:15:49,670 --> 00:15:48,320 plumbing and you couldn't use another 436 00:15:52,310 --> 00:15:49,680 soyuz for that i mean that was the only 437 00:15:55,350 --> 00:15:52,320 one that was available was this was the 438 00:15:57,189 --> 00:15:55,360 o m vehicle yeah see that the issue that 439 00:15:59,670 --> 00:15:57,199 we have the only other place we have the 440 00:16:01,110 --> 00:15:59,680 soyuz right now is down on the fgb 441 00:16:03,990 --> 00:16:01,120 nader side 442 00:16:05,990 --> 00:16:04,000 and uh the issue that we had um 443 00:16:08,470 --> 00:16:06,000 with that is there's a a 444 00:16:10,150 --> 00:16:08,480 cone that we try to protect uh leaving 445 00:16:11,269 --> 00:16:10,160 the fgb nader 446 00:16:13,430 --> 00:16:11,279 in fact 447 00:16:15,189 --> 00:16:13,440 when we depart any port we have an 448 00:16:16,710 --> 00:16:15,199 understanding of what the what the worst 449 00:16:18,550 --> 00:16:16,720 case dispersions might be with the 450 00:16:20,470 --> 00:16:18,560 departure and and try to make sure that 451 00:16:23,189 --> 00:16:20,480 we have good clearance and with the 452 00:16:24,790 --> 00:16:23,199 shuttle uh docked um 453 00:16:27,030 --> 00:16:24,800 to the pma2 454 00:16:29,269 --> 00:16:27,040 the tail actually protrudes into that 455 00:16:32,710 --> 00:16:29,279 cone that we like to protect so in 456 00:16:33,990 --> 00:16:32,720 general we don't want to compromise uh 457 00:16:36,389 --> 00:16:34,000 and i would tell you at this point we 458 00:16:39,110 --> 00:16:36,399 don't want to compromise on on that that 459 00:16:41,189 --> 00:16:39,120 cone and as those clearances and so so 460 00:16:43,990 --> 00:16:41,199 we don't really look at fgb nader as a 461 00:16:46,550 --> 00:16:44,000 as an option at this point um that is a 462 00:16:47,910 --> 00:16:46,560 series 200 vehicle that's there 463 00:16:50,310 --> 00:16:47,920 uh the other thing that we have to 464 00:16:52,230 --> 00:16:50,320 consider is that that's the uh that's 465 00:16:54,550 --> 00:16:52,240 the newest vehicle vehicle that that's 466 00:16:57,110 --> 00:16:54,560 arrived to station with that crew 467 00:16:58,310 --> 00:16:57,120 and so uh you know again uh part of the 468 00:16:59,990 --> 00:16:58,320 job 469 00:17:01,910 --> 00:17:00,000 that we have to go do is we have to look 470 00:17:03,749 --> 00:17:01,920 at all the what-ifs and what if you 471 00:17:05,909 --> 00:17:03,759 undocked this guy and couldn't get him 472 00:17:07,429 --> 00:17:05,919 back then you you know then 473 00:17:11,029 --> 00:17:07,439 you know you brought your your newest 474 00:17:12,630 --> 00:17:11,039 crew home and so again that that all 475 00:17:14,150 --> 00:17:12,640 weighs into it but i would tell you the 476 00:17:16,549 --> 00:17:14,160 primary reason we won't do anything with 477 00:17:18,470 --> 00:17:16,559 an fgb nader location is because of 478 00:17:19,829 --> 00:17:18,480 because of the clearance issue just a 479 00:17:21,750 --> 00:17:19,839 quick follow then but the only reason 480 00:17:24,549 --> 00:17:21,760 that the o m vehicle could be used is 481 00:17:26,390 --> 00:17:24,559 because htv is on harmony zenith and 482 00:17:28,230 --> 00:17:26,400 that provided you the same effect i 483 00:17:29,830 --> 00:17:28,240 guess going up i would i would tell you 484 00:17:32,549 --> 00:17:29,840 right now in the configuration that 485 00:17:34,870 --> 00:17:32,559 we're in with htv on the xena and the 486 00:17:37,990 --> 00:17:34,880 shuttle where it's at it provides good 487 00:17:39,270 --> 00:17:38,000 blockage for the for the windows and so 488 00:17:40,549 --> 00:17:39,280 um 489 00:17:42,470 --> 00:17:40,559 again that 490 00:17:43,590 --> 00:17:42,480 if the opportunity were ever arise or we 491 00:17:46,310 --> 00:17:43,600 were to make a decision that we wanted 492 00:17:48,630 --> 00:17:46,320 to go attempt this again and htv wasn't 493 00:17:50,549 --> 00:17:48,640 there again what we've got today is a 494 00:17:52,230 --> 00:17:50,559 point analysis we'll basically have to 495 00:17:53,909 --> 00:17:52,240 go start over with the configuration and 496 00:17:55,830 --> 00:17:53,919 try to understand what it would mean to 497 00:17:58,549 --> 00:17:55,840 try to do it in a even a slightly 498 00:18:00,870 --> 00:17:58,559 different configuration 499 00:18:05,430 --> 00:18:00,880 other questions 500 00:18:09,029 --> 00:18:06,870 yeah thanks pete spots uh with the 501 00:18:11,190 --> 00:18:09,039 christian science monitor um 502 00:18:14,070 --> 00:18:11,200 uh one of the as we've been hearing 503 00:18:16,390 --> 00:18:14,080 about this uh throughout the week one of 504 00:18:18,470 --> 00:18:16,400 the rationales was a gathering of 505 00:18:21,029 --> 00:18:18,480 engineering data doesn't that 506 00:18:23,110 --> 00:18:21,039 is is that rationale 507 00:18:25,350 --> 00:18:23,120 strong enough to you know suggest taking 508 00:18:26,830 --> 00:18:25,360 another crack at this um you know in a 509 00:18:30,549 --> 00:18:26,840 future time or 510 00:18:32,789 --> 00:18:30,559 um is it the alignment of the vehicles 511 00:18:33,990 --> 00:18:32,799 on top of that that sort of made this 512 00:18:35,110 --> 00:18:34,000 the prime 513 00:18:37,270 --> 00:18:35,120 um 514 00:18:39,430 --> 00:18:37,280 you know the prime opportunity to do it 515 00:18:41,110 --> 00:18:39,440 well again i think there was multiple 516 00:18:43,350 --> 00:18:41,120 reasons why this was 517 00:18:45,510 --> 00:18:43,360 was going to be a good thing to go do 518 00:18:47,270 --> 00:18:45,520 clearly photo documentation 519 00:18:49,029 --> 00:18:47,280 whether it be used for engineering data 520 00:18:51,110 --> 00:18:49,039 or whether it be used for 521 00:18:54,390 --> 00:18:51,120 you know the the photograph for the ages 522 00:18:56,549 --> 00:18:54,400 is is is it doesn't 523 00:19:00,150 --> 00:18:56,559 you know still the configuration is what 524 00:19:02,150 --> 00:19:00,160 it is as far as um the use of soyuz in 525 00:19:05,029 --> 00:19:02,160 the future to help with uh capturing 526 00:19:06,630 --> 00:19:05,039 engineering related data and and doing 527 00:19:08,390 --> 00:19:06,640 fly around and 528 00:19:10,470 --> 00:19:08,400 i will tell you we every time we do one 529 00:19:11,750 --> 00:19:10,480 of these things we learn a lot not just 530 00:19:14,070 --> 00:19:11,760 about the vehicles but about our 531 00:19:17,270 --> 00:19:14,080 processes that we use to go do these 532 00:19:18,549 --> 00:19:17,280 kinds of activities and so um 533 00:19:20,310 --> 00:19:18,559 though we're not doing the fly about 534 00:19:21,669 --> 00:19:20,320 here i would tell you we we gotta get a 535 00:19:23,270 --> 00:19:21,679 lot of good data 536 00:19:24,390 --> 00:19:23,280 both about our ability to go do this 537 00:19:25,430 --> 00:19:24,400 kind of 538 00:19:27,190 --> 00:19:25,440 function 539 00:19:28,950 --> 00:19:27,200 not just on the russian side but but 540 00:19:30,470 --> 00:19:28,960 what it would take on our side to go do 541 00:19:32,070 --> 00:19:30,480 it and and with the rest of the 542 00:19:35,430 --> 00:19:32,080 partnership so 543 00:19:37,510 --> 00:19:35,440 again i i don't see it as a wasted time 544 00:19:39,590 --> 00:19:37,520 wasted effort and and 545 00:19:41,270 --> 00:19:39,600 if we ever needed to go do something 546 00:19:43,110 --> 00:19:41,280 with the soil using and capture some 547 00:19:44,470 --> 00:19:43,120 additional engineering data related to 548 00:19:46,549 --> 00:19:44,480 something that may be going on on 549 00:19:47,909 --> 00:19:46,559 outside the vehicle 550 00:19:49,750 --> 00:19:47,919 you know we'll have to assess that at 551 00:19:53,909 --> 00:19:49,760 that time 552 00:19:57,830 --> 00:19:55,909 denise ciao it's space.com a question 553 00:19:59,190 --> 00:19:57,840 for kenneth um you mentioned that this 554 00:20:01,029 --> 00:19:59,200 is a unique opportunity that you have 555 00:20:02,230 --> 00:20:01,039 here and that given the layout of the 556 00:20:04,390 --> 00:20:02,240 flight plan 557 00:20:05,750 --> 00:20:04,400 moving forward it probably won't 558 00:20:07,190 --> 00:20:05,760 match up where you have all the visiting 559 00:20:08,470 --> 00:20:07,200 vehicles here at the same time and i 560 00:20:09,750 --> 00:20:08,480 know from an operational and risk 561 00:20:11,510 --> 00:20:09,760 standpoint it 562 00:20:12,789 --> 00:20:11,520 makes sense to to accept the decision 563 00:20:14,070 --> 00:20:12,799 but i just wonder if you could comment 564 00:20:15,750 --> 00:20:14,080 on maybe your disappointment or the 565 00:20:17,510 --> 00:20:15,760 disappointment of other of the flight 566 00:20:19,270 --> 00:20:17,520 control members 567 00:20:21,909 --> 00:20:19,280 okay sure um 568 00:20:23,750 --> 00:20:21,919 you know this is uh this is very much a 569 00:20:25,830 --> 00:20:23,760 a a can-do 570 00:20:27,430 --> 00:20:25,840 team and i'm not talking about the nasa 571 00:20:29,190 --> 00:20:27,440 team i'm not talking about the ops team 572 00:20:32,230 --> 00:20:29,200 i'm talking about the entire 573 00:20:34,549 --> 00:20:32,240 partnership if you look at 574 00:20:37,750 --> 00:20:34,559 the last 10 11 years that we've been 575 00:20:38,870 --> 00:20:37,760 operating on orbit um this uh 576 00:20:41,669 --> 00:20:38,880 this team 577 00:20:43,190 --> 00:20:41,679 you know thrives on challenges and 578 00:20:44,789 --> 00:20:43,200 this was something that again we were 579 00:20:47,029 --> 00:20:44,799 asked to go take a look at it was 580 00:20:49,669 --> 00:20:47,039 relatively late it was different than 581 00:20:52,390 --> 00:20:49,679 than what our nominal plan was and uh 582 00:20:54,310 --> 00:20:52,400 and the first reaction is uh how we 583 00:20:55,669 --> 00:20:54,320 gonna do this and then everybody steps 584 00:20:57,430 --> 00:20:55,679 back they take a breath and the next 585 00:21:00,470 --> 00:20:57,440 thing you know here come the options and 586 00:21:02,230 --> 00:21:00,480 here come the thoughts and and so uh 587 00:21:04,470 --> 00:21:02,240 you know people start knocking down the 588 00:21:06,870 --> 00:21:04,480 walls and figure out how to how to make 589 00:21:09,830 --> 00:21:06,880 things happen and again we do that all 590 00:21:11,750 --> 00:21:09,840 in the context of our of our uh our risk 591 00:21:13,270 --> 00:21:11,760 management processes that help make sure 592 00:21:16,149 --> 00:21:13,280 that that we're asking all the right 593 00:21:17,909 --> 00:21:16,159 questions and so i think 594 00:21:20,230 --> 00:21:17,919 even on the russian side you know this 595 00:21:21,909 --> 00:21:20,240 is not necessarily uh what they wanted 596 00:21:24,149 --> 00:21:21,919 the outcome to be 597 00:21:26,070 --> 00:21:24,159 and so is there disappointment sure i 598 00:21:28,630 --> 00:21:26,080 think so i think that 599 00:21:30,390 --> 00:21:28,640 this was going to be something that that 600 00:21:31,990 --> 00:21:30,400 a lot of us were were looking to pull 601 00:21:33,510 --> 00:21:32,000 off but just because 602 00:21:35,190 --> 00:21:33,520 again it would have been something 603 00:21:36,710 --> 00:21:35,200 really really good for 604 00:21:39,029 --> 00:21:36,720 for for the program it would have been 605 00:21:41,350 --> 00:21:39,039 good for a lot of people to uh to have 606 00:21:42,870 --> 00:21:41,360 this this image and and this 607 00:21:43,990 --> 00:21:42,880 this available so 608 00:21:45,909 --> 00:21:44,000 yeah there's there's a little bit of 609 00:21:47,909 --> 00:21:45,919 disappointment but like i told the team 610 00:21:50,470 --> 00:21:47,919 at the mmt this morning you know we have 611 00:21:52,149 --> 00:21:50,480 to respect the fact that that 612 00:21:53,510 --> 00:21:52,159 uh you know it's the right thing to go 613 00:21:55,669 --> 00:21:53,520 do and ask the hard questions and 614 00:21:58,390 --> 00:21:55,679 sometimes the the hard questions bring 615 00:21:59,990 --> 00:21:58,400 about answers that that you know may not 616 00:22:02,149 --> 00:22:00,000 be what everybody wants but it may be 617 00:22:04,789 --> 00:22:02,159 the right thing to go do and and again i 618 00:22:06,710 --> 00:22:04,799 had absolute 100 consensus in the room 619 00:22:11,029 --> 00:22:06,720 there 620 00:22:14,310 --> 00:22:13,510 hi robert perlman with collectspace.com 621 00:22:17,350 --> 00:22:14,320 um 622 00:22:20,070 --> 00:22:17,360 you mentioned uh well this was a a late 623 00:22:22,149 --> 00:22:20,080 decision uh or late idea to come forward 624 00:22:24,310 --> 00:22:22,159 for the fly about um 625 00:22:26,549 --> 00:22:24,320 and not to play what if but if there had 626 00:22:29,350 --> 00:22:26,559 been more time if this had been proposed 627 00:22:30,870 --> 00:22:29,360 well before discovery launched 628 00:22:32,230 --> 00:22:30,880 do you believe that the partners would 629 00:22:33,909 --> 00:22:32,240 have been able to come become 630 00:22:34,789 --> 00:22:33,919 comfortable with the idea or was it 631 00:22:37,430 --> 00:22:34,799 simply 632 00:22:38,950 --> 00:22:37,440 it was it not a timing issue 633 00:22:41,029 --> 00:22:38,960 i would tell you it's only a timing 634 00:22:43,029 --> 00:22:41,039 issue in that 635 00:22:44,230 --> 00:22:43,039 that we didn't 636 00:22:46,470 --> 00:22:44,240 we didn't get a chance to talk about 637 00:22:49,190 --> 00:22:46,480 this before that soyuz launched uh had 638 00:22:50,710 --> 00:22:49,200 it made a difference in the in the um in 639 00:22:52,630 --> 00:22:50,720 the roscosmos 640 00:22:54,630 --> 00:22:52,640 position potentially if they would have 641 00:22:56,070 --> 00:22:54,640 had a chance to know this was out there 642 00:22:58,149 --> 00:22:56,080 and that we had this potential to do 643 00:22:59,990 --> 00:22:58,159 this uh you know through their own 644 00:23:02,230 --> 00:23:00,000 engineering test programs and their 645 00:23:04,149 --> 00:23:02,240 their their train and fly type mentality 646 00:23:06,230 --> 00:23:04,159 similar to ours you know they may have 647 00:23:07,510 --> 00:23:06,240 gotten to the point where uh you know 648 00:23:09,590 --> 00:23:07,520 they would have felt more comfortable 649 00:23:11,350 --> 00:23:09,600 with this vehicle doing this but i i 650 00:23:13,990 --> 00:23:11,360 would tell you at this point uh you know 651 00:23:15,510 --> 00:23:14,000 it's a new vehicle um they're 652 00:23:16,950 --> 00:23:15,520 they're just like we are in that they 653 00:23:19,830 --> 00:23:16,960 want to be very guarded with the way 654 00:23:22,230 --> 00:23:19,840 they do things and and we we we test our 655 00:23:23,990 --> 00:23:22,240 stuff before we fly it we we we test it 656 00:23:26,789 --> 00:23:24,000 in a way that that we intend to use it 657 00:23:28,390 --> 00:23:26,799 on orbit and in this instance we were 658 00:23:30,470 --> 00:23:28,400 as a partnership talking about doing 659 00:23:32,070 --> 00:23:30,480 something that they hadn't hadn't tested 660 00:23:33,750 --> 00:23:32,080 and done before so 661 00:23:36,870 --> 00:23:33,760 i would tell you that 662 00:23:38,390 --> 00:23:36,880 it wasn't just um you know a week 663 00:23:40,230 --> 00:23:38,400 kind of thing i think we were probably 664 00:23:41,110 --> 00:23:40,240 talking about a much longer period than 665 00:23:45,029 --> 00:23:41,120 that 666 00:23:46,549 --> 00:23:45,039 this and and quite frankly uh we 667 00:23:48,230 --> 00:23:46,559 wouldn't have had that discussion back 668 00:23:50,630 --> 00:23:48,240 then because we didn't know exactly 669 00:23:52,710 --> 00:23:50,640 where the shuttle was going to end up we 670 00:23:54,950 --> 00:23:52,720 again had a window of opportunity here 671 00:23:58,549 --> 00:23:54,960 that was created with with the shuttle 672 00:24:01,110 --> 00:23:58,559 ending up in february so um again 673 00:24:04,950 --> 00:24:01,120 it is what it is and and uh 674 00:24:06,710 --> 00:24:04,960 and we'll we move forward from here 675 00:24:11,830 --> 00:24:06,720 okay let's go down to the kennedy space 676 00:24:15,110 --> 00:24:13,990 um hello marcia dunn of the associated 677 00:24:17,110 --> 00:24:15,120 press 678 00:24:18,789 --> 00:24:17,120 one fly around question and then one 679 00:24:21,430 --> 00:24:18,799 non-related 680 00:24:23,830 --> 00:24:21,440 for mr todd was it the fly around 681 00:24:26,070 --> 00:24:23,840 portion itself that was the 682 00:24:28,630 --> 00:24:26,080 concern of the russian engineers or was 683 00:24:30,310 --> 00:24:28,640 it the re-docking part of it i'm just 684 00:24:32,870 --> 00:24:30,320 wondering what was what was their 685 00:24:35,110 --> 00:24:32,880 concerned area of 686 00:24:37,669 --> 00:24:35,120 area about this whole thing 687 00:24:39,909 --> 00:24:37,679 sure marcia i don't think 688 00:24:42,230 --> 00:24:39,919 again at least the the level of detail 689 00:24:45,029 --> 00:24:42,240 that was given to me wasn't broken down 690 00:24:46,870 --> 00:24:45,039 by the profile that this particular part 691 00:24:49,590 --> 00:24:46,880 of the profile is what was giving them 692 00:24:52,390 --> 00:24:49,600 fits i think in general uh it's just 693 00:24:53,990 --> 00:24:52,400 this this idea that that you know we 694 00:24:55,190 --> 00:24:54,000 we're going to go 695 00:24:56,630 --> 00:24:55,200 build a vehicle there's what we're going 696 00:24:59,510 --> 00:24:56,640 to ask it to do we're going to go train 697 00:25:01,590 --> 00:24:59,520 our crews to go do this and and and with 698 00:25:04,310 --> 00:25:01,600 this first vehicle there's just some 699 00:25:06,549 --> 00:25:04,320 level of of discomfort and straying too 700 00:25:09,029 --> 00:25:06,559 far from the plan uh that they already 701 00:25:11,669 --> 00:25:09,039 had in place and and not having uh the 702 00:25:13,990 --> 00:25:11,679 right amount of time uh with the vehicle 703 00:25:17,029 --> 00:25:14,000 to go to go get comfortable and and with 704 00:25:18,789 --> 00:25:17,039 the crew as well so uh again i think i 705 00:25:21,430 --> 00:25:18,799 think that uh what we're dealing with 706 00:25:23,750 --> 00:25:21,440 here is just it's an it's a new vehicle 707 00:25:26,070 --> 00:25:23,760 it's got it's got new systems on it and 708 00:25:28,070 --> 00:25:26,080 and so there's some level of of comfort 709 00:25:29,830 --> 00:25:28,080 that they need to gain before 710 00:25:31,669 --> 00:25:29,840 they're going to be willing to entertain 711 00:25:35,669 --> 00:25:31,679 these kinds of of 712 00:25:40,470 --> 00:25:38,630 all right thank you and and for um for 713 00:25:42,789 --> 00:25:40,480 mr uh korth 714 00:25:44,710 --> 00:25:42,799 uh when they enter leonardo later today 715 00:25:46,390 --> 00:25:44,720 will they have the usual protective gear 716 00:25:48,310 --> 00:25:46,400 goggles um 717 00:25:50,070 --> 00:25:48,320 face masks that sort of thing 718 00:25:52,149 --> 00:25:50,080 yeah that's that's part of our standard 719 00:25:54,070 --> 00:25:52,159 protocol for entering any 720 00:25:55,590 --> 00:25:54,080 any new vehicle the first time it shows 721 00:25:58,070 --> 00:25:55,600 up and and 722 00:26:01,510 --> 00:25:58,080 even though leonardo as it was formerly 723 00:26:03,190 --> 00:26:01,520 called pmm formally known as leonardo 724 00:26:04,630 --> 00:26:03,200 has a history i think it's like seven 725 00:26:07,430 --> 00:26:04,640 times we've we've flown it on the 726 00:26:10,310 --> 00:26:07,440 orbiter uh it's been reconfigured 727 00:26:11,909 --> 00:26:10,320 uh got new mmod micrometeoroid 728 00:26:14,149 --> 00:26:11,919 protection other things we've done to it 729 00:26:15,909 --> 00:26:14,159 so for all intents and purposes it is a 730 00:26:18,870 --> 00:26:15,919 new vehicle so we'll treat it the same 731 00:26:22,070 --> 00:26:20,390 okay i think that's it down at the 732 00:26:24,390 --> 00:26:22,080 kennedy space center we have reporters 733 00:26:27,430 --> 00:26:24,400 on the phone bridge and first up on the 734 00:26:29,269 --> 00:26:27,440 phone bridge is irene klotz 735 00:26:30,630 --> 00:26:29,279 thanks very much i have a couple 736 00:26:33,269 --> 00:26:30,640 questions um 737 00:26:35,269 --> 00:26:33,279 the first is with the addition of pmm 738 00:26:37,029 --> 00:26:35,279 and not including the shuttle's mass 739 00:26:40,549 --> 00:26:37,039 what's the current mass of the space 740 00:26:44,230 --> 00:26:42,630 somewhere around nine hundred thousand 741 00:26:47,750 --> 00:26:44,240 pounds i believe that's the number i 742 00:26:52,630 --> 00:26:49,830 um thank you and uh the other the other 743 00:26:55,110 --> 00:26:52,640 thing uh concerning the fly about 744 00:26:57,750 --> 00:26:55,120 although the picture won't be the same 745 00:27:00,149 --> 00:26:57,760 is can't you get what engineering data 746 00:27:04,870 --> 00:27:00,159 you need during the shuttles fly around 747 00:27:07,430 --> 00:27:06,149 is your question are we still going to 748 00:27:09,350 --> 00:27:07,440 do the fly around with the shuttle and 749 00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:09,360 get some engineering data there oh 750 00:27:13,350 --> 00:27:12,240 certainly absolutely uh we we're going 751 00:27:15,510 --> 00:27:13,360 to 752 00:27:17,430 --> 00:27:15,520 still at least get get get the data we 753 00:27:19,669 --> 00:27:17,440 would normally capture with uh with a 754 00:27:21,350 --> 00:27:19,679 shuttle fly around and go do the normal 755 00:27:24,549 --> 00:27:21,360 post flight analysis that we would do 756 00:27:27,510 --> 00:27:24,559 with that imagery you bet 757 00:27:29,830 --> 00:27:27,520 thanks and i had one other one the um 758 00:27:32,630 --> 00:27:29,840 although this brings to 759 00:27:34,470 --> 00:27:32,640 the end the uss uh 760 00:27:36,070 --> 00:27:34,480 pressurized modules for station i 761 00:27:38,230 --> 00:27:36,080 believe there's still 762 00:27:40,789 --> 00:27:38,240 one or two more coming from russia do 763 00:27:42,950 --> 00:27:40,799 you either of you have any updates on 764 00:27:45,750 --> 00:27:42,960 what um what might still be coming for a 765 00:27:49,190 --> 00:27:46,789 well uh 766 00:27:50,870 --> 00:27:49,200 there there's the mlm that's still still 767 00:27:53,669 --> 00:27:50,880 in the queue our russian partners are 768 00:27:55,669 --> 00:27:53,679 working on it uh irena that's that's 769 00:27:57,510 --> 00:27:55,679 that's the only one that i know of that 770 00:27:59,190 --> 00:27:57,520 that uh they're currently active in 771 00:28:00,789 --> 00:27:59,200 working on and there may be others i 772 00:28:01,830 --> 00:28:00,799 just don't have that information with me 773 00:28:04,070 --> 00:28:01,840 here and 774 00:28:05,590 --> 00:28:04,080 and and potential launch dates and all 775 00:28:07,350 --> 00:28:05,600 that we can we can certainly try to get 776 00:28:08,549 --> 00:28:07,360 that to you though 777 00:28:10,789 --> 00:28:08,559 thank you 778 00:28:12,950 --> 00:28:10,799 okay next up on the phone bridge james 779 00:28:16,549 --> 00:28:12,960 dean 780 00:28:18,470 --> 00:28:16,559 uh thank you rob james in florida today 781 00:28:20,710 --> 00:28:18,480 mr todd i wonder you've been referring 782 00:28:23,110 --> 00:28:20,720 to the soyuz as a new vehicle could you 783 00:28:26,070 --> 00:28:23,120 discuss at all what is new and different 784 00:28:27,990 --> 00:28:26,080 about this particular soyuz and are you 785 00:28:29,990 --> 00:28:28,000 surprised that that 786 00:28:31,430 --> 00:28:30,000 concern wasn't raised much earlier in 787 00:28:33,110 --> 00:28:31,440 the process it seemed like it really 788 00:28:36,230 --> 00:28:33,120 came down to 789 00:28:38,070 --> 00:28:36,240 last day before all of a sudden that was 790 00:28:39,430 --> 00:28:38,080 the reason for 791 00:28:40,710 --> 00:28:39,440 down 792 00:28:42,789 --> 00:28:40,720 james 793 00:28:44,870 --> 00:28:42,799 i will tell you that that there's some 794 00:28:46,230 --> 00:28:44,880 new avionics systems there's new 795 00:28:48,630 --> 00:28:46,240 computers 796 00:28:50,549 --> 00:28:48,640 associated with this particular series 797 00:28:52,389 --> 00:28:50,559 700 vehicle 798 00:28:53,669 --> 00:28:52,399 as far as 799 00:28:55,990 --> 00:28:53,679 as what 800 00:28:57,350 --> 00:28:56,000 what this means to us as we work through 801 00:28:58,870 --> 00:28:57,360 the process 802 00:29:00,230 --> 00:28:58,880 i would tell you in my initial 803 00:29:01,510 --> 00:29:00,240 discussions with the russians they 804 00:29:03,510 --> 00:29:01,520 brought this up 805 00:29:06,389 --> 00:29:03,520 this this was not new information there 806 00:29:10,070 --> 00:29:06,399 was no surprise to anybody in the entire 807 00:29:12,149 --> 00:29:10,080 partnership um that the russians were 808 00:29:14,310 --> 00:29:12,159 were having these types of discussions 809 00:29:16,310 --> 00:29:14,320 um again 810 00:29:18,230 --> 00:29:16,320 every every day you're working in low 811 00:29:21,110 --> 00:29:18,240 earth orbit is an exercise and risk 812 00:29:23,029 --> 00:29:21,120 management is it is by nature what we do 813 00:29:25,269 --> 00:29:23,039 and so um 814 00:29:27,830 --> 00:29:25,279 no matter what task is in front of us 815 00:29:29,510 --> 00:29:27,840 we're always asking the what ifs and and 816 00:29:31,350 --> 00:29:29,520 and so there's no doubt in my mind that 817 00:29:33,269 --> 00:29:31,360 the russians as soon as we brought this 818 00:29:35,510 --> 00:29:33,279 up again started their own uh 819 00:29:36,630 --> 00:29:35,520 discussions internally and and going 820 00:29:39,750 --> 00:29:36,640 through their own risk management 821 00:29:41,269 --> 00:29:39,760 process to try to understand uh what uh 822 00:29:42,950 --> 00:29:41,279 what level of comfort they could get 823 00:29:44,710 --> 00:29:42,960 with this and they were very open with 824 00:29:47,190 --> 00:29:44,720 us about this 825 00:29:49,750 --> 00:29:47,200 and and we had discussions 826 00:29:50,549 --> 00:29:49,760 to that regard but but 827 00:29:51,430 --> 00:29:50,559 we 828 00:29:53,430 --> 00:29:51,440 uh 829 00:29:55,990 --> 00:29:53,440 the rest of the partnership 830 00:29:58,070 --> 00:29:56,000 really needed to let them conclude their 831 00:29:59,430 --> 00:29:58,080 part of the process that that needed to 832 00:30:00,310 --> 00:29:59,440 happen 833 00:30:02,230 --> 00:30:00,320 and 834 00:30:04,710 --> 00:30:02,240 you know it is their vehicle it's uh it 835 00:30:07,669 --> 00:30:04,720 was been their commander uh performing 836 00:30:08,870 --> 00:30:07,679 the function and so uh from from the 837 00:30:11,190 --> 00:30:08,880 standpoint of 838 00:30:13,269 --> 00:30:11,200 of it being a surprise it absolutely was 839 00:30:14,870 --> 00:30:13,279 not a surprise uh they needed to go do 840 00:30:16,789 --> 00:30:14,880 their their own internal process and 841 00:30:19,190 --> 00:30:16,799 that just took some amount of time and 842 00:30:21,350 --> 00:30:19,200 and we just got that conclusion uh this 843 00:30:24,149 --> 00:30:21,360 morning 844 00:30:25,669 --> 00:30:24,159 okay thanks and um i wondered if if you 845 00:30:28,149 --> 00:30:25,679 might be able just to elaborate a little 846 00:30:30,149 --> 00:30:28,159 bit more on how that plus one day will 847 00:30:31,110 --> 00:30:30,159 be used since it seems like transfer is 848 00:30:33,909 --> 00:30:31,120 um 849 00:30:34,870 --> 00:30:33,919 is well on its way and out of schedule 850 00:30:36,389 --> 00:30:34,880 um 851 00:30:39,190 --> 00:30:36,399 and uh 852 00:30:41,669 --> 00:30:39,200 finally also if there's any of the uh 853 00:30:44,549 --> 00:30:41,679 eva cats and dogs that you could 854 00:30:46,549 --> 00:30:44,559 uh specify or or highlight uh uh 855 00:30:48,389 --> 00:30:46,559 occurring tomorrow that are um you know 856 00:30:50,789 --> 00:30:48,399 important activities but but just sort 857 00:30:53,669 --> 00:30:50,799 of uh 858 00:30:55,190 --> 00:30:53,679 activities that they'll be performing 859 00:30:57,590 --> 00:30:55,200 i can say 860 00:31:00,470 --> 00:30:57,600 the prime use right now of this this 861 00:31:02,630 --> 00:31:00,480 extra day is going to be outfitting 862 00:31:04,389 --> 00:31:02,640 of the the new pmm 863 00:31:06,710 --> 00:31:04,399 the current timeline that we had going 864 00:31:08,950 --> 00:31:06,720 into the mission really barely got us 865 00:31:11,750 --> 00:31:08,960 into the pmm i've got a couple of big 866 00:31:14,070 --> 00:31:11,760 items out with the the intent 867 00:31:15,590 --> 00:31:14,080 of gathering as much packing foam and 868 00:31:17,350 --> 00:31:15,600 packing structure to throw away in the 869 00:31:19,350 --> 00:31:17,360 htv that's that's a big program 870 00:31:20,950 --> 00:31:19,360 objective you know we got a lot of good 871 00:31:23,350 --> 00:31:20,960 stuff out htv 872 00:31:26,070 --> 00:31:23,360 um and the other objective of htv was to 873 00:31:28,710 --> 00:31:26,080 bring home a lot of the uh packing trash 874 00:31:29,990 --> 00:31:28,720 and that uh we expected to come up in on 875 00:31:32,230 --> 00:31:30,000 this mission 876 00:31:34,389 --> 00:31:32,240 so adding a day 877 00:31:36,789 --> 00:31:34,399 the equipment that's brought up in pmm 878 00:31:38,389 --> 00:31:36,799 there is a tremendous amount of things 879 00:31:41,509 --> 00:31:38,399 it's packed to the gills 880 00:31:42,630 --> 00:31:41,519 and there are many many many manned crew 881 00:31:43,509 --> 00:31:42,640 hours 882 00:31:45,350 --> 00:31:43,519 of 883 00:31:48,789 --> 00:31:45,360 packing resto 884 00:31:50,630 --> 00:31:48,799 and reorganization so adding a day and 885 00:31:52,230 --> 00:31:50,640 having more folks to 886 00:31:54,710 --> 00:31:52,240 help with that task 887 00:31:56,070 --> 00:31:54,720 tremendously helps out the the station 888 00:31:58,389 --> 00:31:56,080 and the stage 889 00:32:01,350 --> 00:31:58,399 process so we're going to intend to use 890 00:32:05,509 --> 00:32:01,360 it to help out put a dent in the 891 00:32:11,149 --> 00:32:09,029 okay next up charles atkinson 892 00:32:12,830 --> 00:32:11,159 yes good evening charles zankinson with 893 00:32:15,830 --> 00:32:12,840 spacelaunchnews.com and 894 00:32:17,430 --> 00:32:15,840 examiner.com mr todd i'm interested if 895 00:32:19,590 --> 00:32:17,440 you could talk a little bit about russia 896 00:32:22,310 --> 00:32:19,600 is going to keep three cosmonauts on 897 00:32:25,350 --> 00:32:22,320 board going into 2012 at least 898 00:32:27,909 --> 00:32:25,360 while the u.s has two americans and 899 00:32:31,269 --> 00:32:27,919 there's going to be jaxa in esa vying 900 00:32:36,149 --> 00:32:34,789 as far as an international community um 901 00:32:40,230 --> 00:32:36,159 what is the 902 00:32:44,630 --> 00:32:40,240 seeing one of their astronauts staying 903 00:32:49,750 --> 00:32:47,430 well uh clearly uh certainly they have a 904 00:32:51,110 --> 00:32:49,760 lot of interest i mean this this is 905 00:32:52,549 --> 00:32:51,120 again it's an international space 906 00:32:54,149 --> 00:32:52,559 station uh 907 00:32:55,990 --> 00:32:54,159 with the with a crew of six so they 908 00:32:57,830 --> 00:32:56,000 definitely 909 00:33:00,149 --> 00:32:57,840 are wanting their astronauts on board 910 00:33:02,070 --> 00:33:00,159 they have utilization 911 00:33:05,269 --> 00:33:02,080 objectives for the space station and and 912 00:33:08,070 --> 00:33:05,279 certainly um it's a it's a great source 913 00:33:11,669 --> 00:33:08,080 of pride uh for for them if they can 914 00:33:14,149 --> 00:33:11,679 have one of their uh one of their um 915 00:33:16,789 --> 00:33:14,159 civilians aboard and so uh 916 00:33:19,029 --> 00:33:16,799 you know clearly they would like to 917 00:33:19,750 --> 00:33:19,039 like to to be a board and doing science 918 00:33:22,389 --> 00:33:19,760 uh 919 00:33:23,669 --> 00:33:22,399 for their for their nation so so there's 920 00:33:25,590 --> 00:33:23,679 a great interest in doing that and 921 00:33:27,590 --> 00:33:25,600 that's uh something that we have to 922 00:33:29,590 --> 00:33:27,600 balance as a partnership 923 00:33:30,950 --> 00:33:29,600 going forward 924 00:33:33,029 --> 00:33:30,960 but does it uh 925 00:33:35,830 --> 00:33:33,039 does it seem to you that russia may have 926 00:33:39,669 --> 00:33:35,840 a more of a controlling stance here 927 00:33:44,950 --> 00:33:41,669 well clearly again it's a it's a russian 928 00:33:48,549 --> 00:33:44,960 segment in a and a usos segment and 929 00:33:51,590 --> 00:33:48,559 those agreements to uh to split the 930 00:33:53,830 --> 00:33:51,600 the crew crew assignments uh that's been 931 00:33:56,549 --> 00:33:53,840 in place for for a very long time if 932 00:33:58,549 --> 00:33:56,559 there's any any thoughts about about 933 00:34:00,389 --> 00:33:58,559 changing that again that's that's going 934 00:34:03,990 --> 00:34:00,399 to be discussions it'll be held at a 935 00:34:15,270 --> 00:34:07,110 okay thank you and last on the phone 936 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,230 is jim still there 937 00:34:21,750 --> 00:34:20,230 okay we don't hear him so we'll go back 938 00:34:25,270 --> 00:34:21,760 to the kennedy space center i believe 939 00:34:29,669 --> 00:34:27,190 uh yes one follow-up for anyone on the 940 00:34:32,470 --> 00:34:29,679 panel i'm wondering um do you have the 941 00:34:34,389 --> 00:34:32,480 latest percentage for completion of the 942 00:34:37,750 --> 00:34:34,399 space station both interior 943 00:34:41,669 --> 00:34:40,310 i do not marcia i can get that for you i 944 00:34:43,510 --> 00:34:41,679 meant to get that before i came over 945 00:34:45,030 --> 00:34:43,520 here and i just didn't get it so but i 946 00:34:49,190 --> 00:34:45,040 will i will run that down for you and 947 00:34:51,909 --> 00:34:50,389 okay 948 00:34:53,829 --> 00:34:51,919 i think we're back here now for any 949 00:34:57,589 --> 00:34:53,839 follow-ups 950 00:35:00,230 --> 00:34:57,599 couple of programming notes uh we're on 951 00:35:01,990 --> 00:35:00,240 rev e of the mission television schedule 952 00:35:03,109 --> 00:35:02,000 that will be updated as developments 953 00:35:04,710 --> 00:35:03,119 warrant throughout the rest of the 954 00:35:06,470 --> 00:35:04,720 mission the current 955 00:35:08,069 --> 00:35:06,480 mission tv schedule reflects the 956 00:35:10,710 --> 00:35:08,079 extended mission 957 00:35:12,790 --> 00:35:10,720 a series of hometowner media interviews 958 00:35:15,190 --> 00:35:12,800 will be seen on nasa television with a 959 00:35:17,670 --> 00:35:15,200 variety of crew members at 3 23 pm 960 00:35:21,030 --> 00:35:17,680 central time today that'll be with king 961 00:35:23,829 --> 00:35:21,040 tv in seattle ktrk tv here in houston 962 00:35:25,670 --> 00:35:23,839 and como tv in seattle the crew's 963 00:35:27,589 --> 00:35:25,680 initial entry into the permanent 964 00:35:29,430 --> 00:35:27,599 multipurpose module as you heard will be 965 00:35:31,910 --> 00:35:29,440 later this afternoon planned just before 966 00:35:34,150 --> 00:35:31,920 6 pm central time today perhaps a bit 967 00:35:37,030 --> 00:35:34,160 earlier than that and the crew sleep 968 00:35:38,950 --> 00:35:37,040 period begins at 8 23 pm central time 969 00:35:41,030 --> 00:35:38,960 this evening just before the first 970 00:35:43,270 --> 00:35:41,040 airing of our flight day highlights at 9 971 00:35:45,430 --> 00:35:43,280 00 pm central time those highlights to 972 00:35:47,589 --> 00:35:45,440 be replayed every hour on the hour 973 00:35:50,069 --> 00:35:47,599 throughout the course of the night 974 00:35:51,750 --> 00:35:50,079 the iss orbit 3 flight director chris 975 00:35:53,910 --> 00:35:51,760 edelen will provide his update on 976 00:35:56,790 --> 00:35:53,920 planning activities from console early 977 00:35:59,190 --> 00:35:56,800 wednesday morning at 2 40 a.m central 978 00:36:01,109 --> 00:35:59,200 time and the wake-up call for the crew 979 00:36:03,270 --> 00:36:01,119 to begin flight day seven and 980 00:36:06,310 --> 00:36:03,280 preparations for the second spacewalk of 981 00:36:08,790 --> 00:36:06,320 the flight is set for 4 23 a.m central 982 00:36:10,470 --> 00:36:08,800 time tomorrow morning 983 00:36:12,150 --> 00:36:10,480 you can follow all the activities on 984 00:36:17,030 --> 00:36:12,160 both the shuttle and the station side of 985 00:36:18,470 --> 00:36:17,040 the house on our website at www.nasa.gov 986 00:36:20,310 --> 00:36:18,480 with that we'll call it a briefing and